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I feel like expressing all the things that you want the agent not to do is very, very

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hard. You can express all the things that you want the agent not to do. That deny listing

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problem is a well -known one in security and is basically not great. You could express

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all the things you want the agent to do, but you're exactly right that if you're using

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something like OpenClaw, that set of things might be so big that you couldn't reasonably

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express all of them.

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Generally, I would say that those are exception cases. Even if I'm using something like

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Claude Code on my desktop, I don't want it to do such a broad range of things. I might

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want it to be able to do pretty much arbitrary stuff within a particular git repo, for

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example, and nothing beyond that. You can express those kinds of policies. But fundamentally,

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if you're going to put an agent in a deterministic box, you have to know what the shape

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of that box is. If the shape of that box is, well, just allow it to do everything,

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then the policy is not going to help you that much. If it's allow it to do everything

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except these things, that might be useful. But I will say that what we've seen and you

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might have seen this in a lot of the headlines,

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if you say to an agent, you're allowed to not do anything but this, it tends to find

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ways around the obstacle very, I would say, creatively.

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I do tend to mentally think about most people should be thinking about this as an allow

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listing problem of allow listing a set of allowed behaviors rather than a deny listing

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problem of trying to exhaustively list all of the bad things in the world.
